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I'm doing some tests using a RAZR V3m with OpenGL ES.

An earlier post suggested that the V3c has native (hardware) support for OpenGL. But testing with the V3m, the rendering performance I am seeing leads me to believe it is software-based. (Rendering is slow, particularly when render involves filling a large portion of the screen.)

Can anyone confirm if V3m has HW 3D or not? (And also re-confirm V3c has hardware?)

Is it true that the RAZR V3x has 3D HW but it just isn't yet enabled in firmware for OpenGL ES (or is it just not enabled when using JSR184 / J2ME?)?

Also -- what is everyone's "favorite" device for HW OpenGL -- I'm using Verizon Wireless (US). What is the best phone for HW 3D performance right now? The VX9800 ?

What about the Verizon "Chocolate" -- does anyone know if it has HW 3D support? Other V-Cast phones?

Thanks,
Groovybeat
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Just a couple of points:
1. Support for OpenGL ES is listed in the Device Pack under the section titled "3D Graphics"
2. All MSM6550 chips support hardware acceleration. MSM6500 is software-only.
-Nathan

Just a couple of points:
1. Support for OpenGL ES is listed in the Device Pack under the section titled "3D Graphics"
2. All MSM6550 chips support hardware acceleration. MSM6500 is software-only.
-Nathan

The Samsun SCH-A990 is a newer 6550 device, however the data sheet posted on the BREW developer area does not indicate it has OpenGL ES support.
Can anyone confirm if it does, and also, if 3D HW is supported on this device?
Is there any centralized list of which devices have OpenGL ES and HW? It is very cumbersome to download and go through all of the data sheets...and they are sometimes outdated it seems.
Thanks,
Groovybeat

The Samsun SCH-A990 is a newer 6550 device, however the data sheet posted on the BREW developer area does not indicate it has OpenGL ES support.
Can anyone confirm if it does, and also, if 3D HW is supported on this device?
Is there any centralized list of which devices have OpenGL ES and HW? It is very cumbersome to download and go through all of the data sheets...and they are sometimes outdated it seems.
Thanks,
Groovybeat

Nathan I loaded the Samsung A990 device into the BREW 3.1.4 emulator and looked at the Device Details.
Under the 3D Graphics section there are two entries.
OpenGL ES Version enabled None
EGL Version enabled None
I'm assuming "None" indicates there is no support for OpenGL ES in this handset.
This is whats confusing!!
The spec sheet indicates this handset uses a MSM6550 chip.
The MSM6550 chip spec sheet indicates this chip has a dedicated hardware GPU for 3D.

Nathan I loaded the Samsung A990 device into the BREW 3.1.4 emulator and looked at the Device Details.
Under the 3D Graphics section there are two entries.
OpenGL ES Version enabled None
EGL Version enabled None
I'm assuming "None" indicates there is no support for OpenGL ES in this handset.
This is whats confusing!!
The spec sheet indicates this handset uses a MSM6550 chip.
The MSM6550 chip spec sheet indicates this chip has a dedicated hardware GPU for 3D.

All MSM6550s support hardware acceleration
the V3C has MSM6550s
therefore V3C suppors opengl es ;)
Well nope, the chipset supports it, but the extension has be loaded, gpu has to be exposed on the phone.
If you're planning to do an opengles on a particular phone, best to get the phone and try it out they vary considerably.

All MSM6550s support hardware acceleration
the V3C has MSM6550s
therefore V3C suppors opengl es ;)
Well nope, the chipset supports it, but the extension has be loaded, gpu has to be exposed on the phone.
If you're planning to do an opengles on a particular phone, best to get the phone and try it out they vary considerably.

Where are you getting your information from?
The Motorola RAZR V3c data sheet indicates that this device has a MSM 6500. Based on your explaination this device does not have a GPU.
https://brewx.qualcomm.com/bws/content/docx/devices/datasheets/motorola/...

Where are you getting your information from?
The Motorola RAZR V3c data sheet indicates that this device has a MSM 6500. Based on your explaination this device does not have a GPU.
https://brewx.qualcomm.com/bws/content/docx/devices/datasheets/motorola/...

its an example of a logical fallacy, not meant to be information on the v3c, even with the 6550 you don't always get opengles

its an example of a logical fallacy, not meant to be information on the v3c, even with the 6550 you don't always get opengles