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Hi all,

I'm a mobile developer (J2ME, PPC, SmartPhone, Symbian) from The Netherlands and we are asked to do some games for BREW capable phones (LG 6000, LG 4400, Motorola V710 for one project and LG 7000 and LG 8000 for another).

My question is that if it is possible to do on-device testing on those phones in Europe. These phones are CDMA and we have the GSM network here.
Can you upload your games using IR, BT or a datacable?

Kind regards,

Maurice Sibrandi

PS. First thread, so be gentle ;)

yes, during development, you can only upload through the data cable..
if you are somewhere without singal, obviously you cant do web/socket connections within your app.. but you run otherwise
-Tyndal

yes, during development, you can only upload through the data cable..
if you are somewhere without singal, obviously you cant do web/socket connections within your app.. but you run otherwise
-Tyndal

Tnx.
Do all the phones support a datacable? (Especially the ones above)
Maurice

Tnx.
Do all the phones support a datacable? (Especially the ones above)
Maurice

pumpkin wrote:Tnx.
Do all the phones support a datacable? (Especially the ones above)
Maurice
Yes, I figured it was implied by the fact that "during development, you can only upload through the data cable.."
of course, getting ahold of the right data cable and drivers can be an adventure in itself... and the phone must be test enabled, etc, etc..
if you need more info, check brew dev home documents and many many posts on the forums.

pumpkin wrote:Tnx.
Do all the phones support a datacable? (Especially the ones above)
Maurice
Yes, I figured it was implied by the fact that "during development, you can only upload through the data cable.."
of course, getting ahold of the right data cable and drivers can be an adventure in itself... and the phone must be test enabled, etc, etc..
if you need more info, check brew dev home documents and many many posts on the forums.

You will also probbaly run in to the issue where your test sigs dont work because the phone time is wrong. The phone time is usualy set from the CDMA signal, and if no signal is present it reverts to 12:00 1 jan 1980 (or somthing similar). This will cause you test sig to fail because it thinks it is expired. Most phones allow you to manually overide the time, but this will need to be done each time you start the phone.

You will also probbaly run in to the issue where your test sigs dont work because the phone time is wrong. The phone time is usualy set from the CDMA signal, and if no signal is present it reverts to 12:00 1 jan 1980 (or somthing similar). This will cause you test sig to fail because it thinks it is expired. Most phones allow you to manually overide the time, but this will need to be done each time you start the phone.

i'm also developing outside USA ,specifically Europe,Greece,
i had no problem with this phones
LG4400,LG6000,LG7000,CDM9500,CDM8900
all brew phones have datacable ,
you can order from ebay , online stores ,
or have someone from usa buy them (like directly from verizon)
and send them to you ,
CDMA signal is not needed to upload and run an application with a sig
file , ofcource the time setting reverts to 1980 something but until
now i had no problem with sigs ,
(only problem i had was when visited brew lab and got a CDMA signal
then sigs got expired , as was using too-old sigs and had to generate new ones )
of cource web/socket connections will not work ,
one way around is to load all data from local files,
and just to be sure that anything seems to work
i open a connection to some host (and of course that connection will fail)
i had an app failed because i compile with brew 1.1 run on 8900 which is v2
and ihtmlviewer had a bug with that specific compile , when i compile for v2
it passed
if i had made a dummy connection while loading from local files it would show up,
of course the better way to be sure is to have it tested with CDMA signal ,
brewlab or have someone inside usa do that ,
stefano

i'm also developing outside USA ,specifically Europe,Greece,
i had no problem with this phones
LG4400,LG6000,LG7000,CDM9500,CDM8900
all brew phones have datacable ,
you can order from ebay , online stores ,
or have someone from usa buy them (like directly from verizon)
and send them to you ,
CDMA signal is not needed to upload and run an application with a sig
file , ofcource the time setting reverts to 1980 something but until
now i had no problem with sigs ,
(only problem i had was when visited brew lab and got a CDMA signal
then sigs got expired , as was using too-old sigs and had to generate new ones )
of cource web/socket connections will not work ,
one way around is to load all data from local files,
and just to be sure that anything seems to work
i open a connection to some host (and of course that connection will fail)
i had an app failed because i compile with brew 1.1 run on 8900 which is v2
and ihtmlviewer had a bug with that specific compile , when i compile for v2
it passed
if i had made a dummy connection while loading from local files it would show up,
of course the better way to be sure is to have it tested with CDMA signal ,
brewlab or have someone inside usa do that ,
stefano

It's been almost 3 years since the last post. I'm in the UK and require a way to test socket and network connectivity. Have any GSM phones made it out onto the market yet? Does anybody know of a good solution for this presently? Does anyone know if the developer lab enables this sort of testing?

It's been almost 3 years since the last post. I'm in the UK and require a way to test socket and network connectivity. Have any GSM phones made it out onto the market yet? Does anybody know of a good solution for this presently? Does anyone know if the developer lab enables this sort of testing?

The developer lab in Cambridge, UK (about a mile from Airsource's office :) ) lets you test CDMA handsets in network. You can't test roaming, but that's about it.
TIM have released a couple of BREW UMTS handsets including the Onda N5050, which I have sitting on my desk. Networking works fine - both IWEB and ISOCKET.
Drop me a line if you need to know more.

The developer lab in Cambridge, UK (about a mile from Airsource's office :) ) lets you test CDMA handsets in network. You can't test roaming, but that's about it.
TIM have released a couple of BREW UMTS handsets including the Onda N5050, which I have sitting on my desk. Networking works fine - both IWEB and ISOCKET.
Drop me a line if you need to know more.